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September 22nd, 2008

Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace applets with services

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 8:13 pm

Categories: Windows client, Windows Live, Corporate strategy, Windows 7

Tags: Team, Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows Live, Microsoft Corp., Windows Live Team, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Mary Jo Foley

Back in March, I heard Microsoft was going to replace some of the applications it traditionally has bundled with Windows subsystems  with Windows Live services in Windows 7.

No one on the Windows team would confirm my tip. But on September 22, the Windows Live team admitted — not to me, but to News.com’s Ina Fried — that this is, indeed, the plan.

Windows 7’s mail, photo-management and movie-maker subsystems applets are all being replaced by optionally installable Windows Live equivalents. This is good news for users, as services are easier to update more frequently than software. It’s also good news for Microsoft, a company that has come under increasing attack by antitrust regulators for bundling more and more previously discrete features into its operating system.

Microsoft Windows chief Steven Sinofsky recently poured cold water (in a long and complex post to the “Engineering Windows 7″ blog) on the idea that Microsoft was moving to decouple any of the bundled features/functionality from Windows 7. But Windows Live General Manager Brian Hall was more direct and forthcoming. From News.com’s latest report:

“In a follow-up interview on Monday, Windows Vista general manager Brian Hall said Microsoft made the decision to remove the tools from Windows for several reasons, including a desire to issue new operating system releases more quickly than it has in the past. The move also removes the confusion of offering and supporting two different programs that perform essentially similar functions.”

(Thanks to LiveSide for helping me connect the dots regarding the specifics as to  Microsoft planned to do to more tightly integrate Windows 7 and Windows Live.)

Any other Windows features and/or bundled applications you think Microsoft should turn into optionally-installable services?

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RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services
I prefer Windows Movie Maker and i like that you can also save your movie back to the video tape in your camera to play back on a TV or on the camera itself.... (Read the rest)
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Details and all that  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/22/08
It just means there's no MAPI handler by default  PB_z | 09/22/08
Will there be a standards based service available?  fr0thy2 | 09/23/08
As long as it works with Windows no one really cares.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/23/08
I dare say that people care  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/23/08
What on gawds earth are  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/23/08
That's a scary thought  beoz | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  jmussman | 09/22/08
Correct. Use of the words "subsystem" and "services" is misleading  PB_z | 09/22/08
subsystems  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  g_keramidas@... | 09/22/08
Housewives and Students are major testers?  david.pennington@... | 09/23/08
Re: their way or no way  masonwheeler | 09/23/08
What is it you dont like about this?  CrashPad | 09/23/08
What could also become optional?  Lerianis | 09/22/08
I don't like the live suite/services.  qmlscycrajg | 09/23/08
Ok, you don't get it...  AnthonySPT | 09/23/08
Your somewhat off as well  EricJilot | 09/23/08
Whose computer is this anyway?  kozmcrae | 09/23/08
The way I understand it.  CrashPad | 09/23/08
I think I starting to get it.  deowll | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  AnthonySPT | 09/23/08
Bad for users  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/23/08
No_Ax  CrashPad | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  Quebec-french | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  CallonCampbell | 09/23/08
I am highly confindent  CrashPad | 09/23/08
My guess is  LiquidLearner | 09/23/08
Most users will get Live preinstalled  de-void | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  Caggles | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  clareJ | 09/23/08
Clarej, this is not just cloud  CrashPad | 09/23/08
Strongarmed Bundled Software would work better. [nt]  olePigeon | 09/23/08
I don't like it at all. Looks like I'll migrate !=MS  dunn@... | 09/23/08
You have the wrong idea here  EricJilot | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  tburzio | 09/23/08
I don't want to be connected anymore  terry flores | 09/23/08
Not sure how to read this one  CrashPad | 09/23/08
Has nothing to do with employees  terry flores | 09/24/08
An IT department should have control of this..  CrashPad | 09/24/08
You got that right!  Ole Man | 09/24/08
Ole Man  CrashPad | 09/24/08
"optionally installable"  MichP | 09/23/08
RE: They're Lost - Really Lost  dsilva1@... | 09/23/08
What is your definition to fat?  CrashPad | 09/23/08
Educate yourself ...  de-void | 09/23/08
For the Sake of their Careers, they're pushing Lock-In  winthropyu | 09/23/08
Funny  jgarrett@... | 09/23/08
Very consise understanding.  CrashPad | 09/24/08
It's called "making a profit"... and/or "job security"  HypnoToad | 09/27/08
Wow, So Many People Being Negative  rkuhn040172@... | 09/23/08
Agreed!!  CrashPad | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  deowll | 09/23/08
Software as a service does not mean cloud...  jgarrett@... | 09/23/08
Eat your Cake and Ice Cream  jgarrett@... | 09/23/08
Live Services will be just as bad (or worse)  Emilio_z | 09/23/08
windows livemail . . .  hansonjb | 09/23/08
Not hardly....  bigsibling | 09/24/08
The beginning of their cost-based application delivery system?  dhuhtala@... | 09/23/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  Greenknight_z | 09/24/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  ChessCanoe | 09/24/08
How Are They Not Apps?  gbentley@... | 09/24/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  chris_x | 09/24/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  bigjim01@... | 09/25/08
Speaking of getting a clue  rtk | 09/25/08
RE: Windows Live team confirms Win7 to replace subsystems with services  yman25 | 10/08/08

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